– by Seth McDonald

It is inevitable that Star Wars: The Last Jedi will draw comparisons to what is held by many fans as the best installment into the Star Wars franchise, The Empire Strikes Back. With both films being the middle entry into their respective trilogies, they both have the responsibility of setting up the finale. And one way to do that is to have the right tone for the film. The man with answers to all of our nerd inquiries, The Last Jedi director, Rian Johnson, spoke with Empire and addressed the issue of tone and how he approached the film.

“This is the second movie in the trilogy, so it’s easy to draw parallels to Empire in terms of a darker feel. And we do dig into the characters: we’re going to challenge them and things are gonna get tough for everybody. But I didn’t want this to go too dark. One of the things I drew from J.J.’s film was that sense of fun and playfulness – that as much Star Wars as ‘I am your father’”

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I for one would be happier if Johnson’s comments were reversed, I would rather have a darker film, with a sprinkling of the fun and playfulness from Star Wars: The Force Awakens. While I don’t want a copy of Empire Strikes Back, I would like The Last Jedi to leave the heroes in a hopeless situation, defeated and not sure of their next move, much like the position the heroes in the original trilogy found themselves in at the end of Empire Strikes Back.

Along with comparisons of how close in tone The Last Jedi will be to Empire Strikes Back , comes potential twist parallels. I think in the back of all of our minds, we are all expecting a mind-blowing twist of some kind, similar to what we were given in Empire Strikes Back. One of the theories I have subscribed to as of late, is that Kylo Ren is actually Rey’s father. I am not sure how old Kylo is supposed to be in the films, but I would say they could push him to his mid 30s, and if they aged Rey around 18-20, it could work. Perhaps Kylo fathering a child could be part of what led to his fall and his turn to the darkside. While some of you may hate this idea, I would actually enjoy seeing it turn out to be true. With this would come a reworking of the infamous, “No, I, am your father.” line.

What kind of tone do you want to see in The Last Jedi ? Let us know in the comments down below!

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Source: Screen Rant

  • Moby85

    Holy crap Seth! The Kylo theory would be insane. It also adds one scene of weird sexual tension from the first film, weirder even in retrospect. But that isn’t so different from Empire’s incestual kiss…Now is it?

    What concerns me more about Rian’s film is the parallels to Empire…A Super Star Destroyer, fight with AT-ATs, Finn perhaps being encased in “Siliconoid” as one LRM fanboy responded to me with. That’s too much, too close. And I will be right with the angry fanboys if in film #2 of this trilogy we get another Star Wars film that reboots an original trilogy film.

    • Seth McDonald

      Right, I don’t want The Last Jedi to be as much like Empire Strikes Back as The Force Awakens was A New Hope. I would like subtle nods to ESB here an there, or one big nod to it, as with the Kylo is Rey’s father theory. To be clear, I didn’t come up with that theory, and I can’t remember where I read it, but ever since I did, I have been all for it.

      • cckrad

        has anyone suggested a kylo and ren are brother and sister theory? i haven’t seen that suggested but to me the way han and rey interacted it was as if they knew each other or had a connection…i kinda doubt it tho. wouldn’t leia have sensed it? unless it was a secret she and luke and han were keeping?

        • Seth McDonald

          That was one of my initial hopes, that they would be siblings. Remember how Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru acted when talking about Anakin and Obi Wan?Leia could know Rey’s lineage and, whatever it may be, and just be lying to her to protect her.

          • cckrad

            yea i mean, i thought rey was han’s daughter when i first saw TFA-han (ford’s) acting seemed very intentionally ’emotional’ towards her….maybe that is the wrong word…empathetic? but maybe they were just trying to show he was a ‘good guy’?

          • Seth McDonald

            I think Han really started to grow fond of her as she showed her love for the Millennium Falcon, and her ability to fix it, in the same way he would.

          • cckrad

            yea i see that…maybe i wanted to see more! ; )
            i kinda think the snoke/rey/clone of luke or paps theories i’ve read about might be it-but i hope i’m totally surprised! on the snoke subject…i don’t believe this one but did you see the chancellor valorum theory? kind of nuts when you look at the face and blue eyes!

  • ScreamFace

    Kylo theory is interesting but the ages don’t match up. Pablo has confirmed Kylo as being 29/30. Rey is about 10 years younger. There’s only been 30 years between the trilogies.

    With Rey, Luke has to be the father. It ain’t going to cut it if she walks up and Luke goes, “Oh hi Rey.” With Rey asking, “Who am I?” Followed by Luke mentioning characters we’ve never heard of. “You’re the daughter of my Jedi mentor Ben’s son Dennis and his wife Dee.”

    It’ll be much better that the film opens with Luke looking at Rey on that cliff top and says, “Rey, you’re Alive.”
    “Who am I?”
    “You’re my Daughter.”

    Get it done with right at the start and move on.

    • Seth McDonald

      Dennis and Dee? So, you’re saying her name is Rey Reynolds? I wouldn’t mind a straight to the point reveal as you proposed, if handled properly. Somebody, better be end up being someone’s something in this film, daughter, brother, cousin. Then there is always the chance that Rey is, just Rey. No connections to known characters, no Rey Kenobi or Palpatine, or Skywalker. Maybe she is just a badass Force gifted scavenger.

      • ScreamFace

        She’s a Five-Star Jedi and so it makes sense her father is the golden god. Denis, not 3PO.

        They have to address Rey’s parents early on. It makes no sense if Luke knows and doesn’t tell her. Rey sought out Luke for answers as to who she is, not to be trained as a Jedi. Something I think has been lost on some people. Obviously training comes, but her primary motivation is questions about herself.

        It will just be bad writing if she doesn’t ask him shortly after they meet, or if they have Luke deliberately not telling her. I would hate the whole, “you’re not ready” dragging it out cliche. Or if he doesn’t know, or it’s vague.

        They’re also kind of big on the force coming from family in the films. Qui-Gon was curious as to who Anakin’s father was. Luke is a Jedi like his father before him.

        Here’s just a theory off the top of my head. What if they flip it to, “where’s Rey’s mother?” She’s Luke’s and he doesn’t know what happened, why she was abandoned and what happened to the mother.

      • Ryan Fink

        That’s the Rey backstory I prefer.

    • Kindofabigdeal

      Remember the mirror thing from the first 6 movies. And this is a mirror of Empire even though everyone denies it. Empire ended with the father reveal, with Luke being the son. TLJ will begin with the reveal, with Luke as the papi.

      • Ryan Fink

        I believe the “mirrors” will continue here, but if she IS going to be his daughter, they need to get it done early. It’s too obvious to save til the end. I hope she’s not his daughter though. Maybe we’re led to Think so and the twist later is who she really is connected to.

  • syambo87

    i think Rey is the Daughter of Luke Skywalker… cause of the Initial Trailer for TFA… The force is strong in my family… i have it… my father has it… my sister has it… you have that power too… and the fact that anakin’s lightsaber calls to Rey… otherwise… the trailer would have no Significance… that whole LIghtsaber calling to Rey would be nothing but a Plot Hole…

    maybe Kylo was trained by Luke…… Kylo was Special… he was the strongest Jedi Luke ever trained…luke had a daughter… when Kylo found out he wasn’t the most powerful Jedi… he got angry… he got competitive… he got jealous… he became greedy for power… he searched for more power and whispers of the dark side called him to meet Snoke…

    Luke maybe hadnt intended for his daughter to be powerful or thought of training her… hoping to let Kylo succeed him… but as the Dark Side grew… he knew Rey wasnt safe… and in order to keep her safe and him from pursuing madness…. they erased his memory of her… and sent her away… but it was too late for kylo… training him afterwards… he was impatient… angry… demanded Luke show him the true nature of the force… started asking questions about the dark side… and almost Choked Luke… luke used the force to knock Kylo Out… sent him to Leia… said he didnt mean to harm Kylo… he didnt mean to turn Kylo into who he had become… and dissapeared…

    Years later… a small girl all grown up… bumps into a small BB unit… goes on a little adventure… learns about her strength… the jedi… and the force…

    she now stands in front of Luke Skywalker… holding Anakin’s lightsaber…

    Ooooo… now i feel like rewatching Episode VII …. hahahaha…

    • Ryan Fink

      I have been resistant to the theory that Rey is Luke’s child, but in your context, it kinda work so for me.

      • syambo87


  • syambo87

    in other news… George Lucas wants to Direct Episode IX…

  • Kronx

    Well, Kylo could easily be her father thanks to the Theory of Relativity… however, if we open that can of worms, none of these movies work.

  • Kindofabigdeal

    Kylo being Rey’s father is the most ridiculous thing I’ve read all week. But I admire your imagination. I can see Rey and Kylo being the children of Leia and Han. When Kylo fell to the dark side they decided to hide Rey. On route to their destination the Falcon gets stolen with Rey in a hidden compartment. When discovered who she is and who they stole the Falcon from they quickly sell it cheap to the guy on Jakku. I know that’s also a stretch but I gurantee Disney has not better idea on the table and we will get something like “your parents, that’s a good story, for another time”.

    • Seth McDonald

      I hope not, I do think its far more likely for Kylo and Rey to be cousins or siblings, than Kylo being Rey’s father, its just one of the theories I came across lately. I think it would have been an interesting take, had they set it up better. Who knows what Ep 8 will bring us? Speculation Nation!

  • Duck O’Death

    I actually think Kylo is the least significant of all the Force characters in this trilogy. Think he’ll be a catalyst or tool for change towards the end in that he has important placement and will make some sacrifice for redemption. But I think he’s just Kylo… a pawn of Snoke, nephew of Luke, and the reason for Luke’s disenchantment. Rian Johnson keeps commenting on Rey and Kylo being these 2 halves but I think this is a subtly deliberate red herring. I think it’s Rey & Snoke that have the +/- connection with the Force. Also think Kylo has far too many youngish tendencies to be the age range for Rey’s father… things like tantrums, insecurities, unsureness, and even his facial expressions and speech patterns are childlike in certain scenes. They just look too much in the same age range. Just guesses from everything i’ve seen/heard/smelled so far