Disney and Pixar are in for a world of change in the coming years. After being under the guidance of John Lasseter for a good number of years, they will go their separate ways under new separate leadership. Honestly, this is probably great news in the long run for the company, as it’ll not only result in the studios becoming more independent outside of one big talent, but it will help each individual studio better create its own identity and culture (as of right now, Disney and Pixar kind of bleed together in the minds of the mainstream).

But, of course, this change didn’t necessarily come in the greatest way. John Lasseter was accused of sexual misconduct, which included giving unwanted grabbing, kissing, and reportedly all-around inappropriate behavior that made many female employees very uncomfortable. Lasseter is now the head over at Skydance Animation, which has led to some anger from certain groups.

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But what does filmmaker Brad Bird (Incredibles 2) have to say about the situation? Speaking with The Daily Beast, he lamented people’s ability to grasp nuance in situations like this.

“These times are not good for nuance. You’re either 100 percent for something or you’re 100 against something. I don’t at all put John in a category with Weinstein. You’re navigating a world where men have acted a certain way for thousands of years. Way too late, but all of a sudden, they’re expected to change that on a dime and it’s necessary and it’s right. But it’s a little bit a gray area. It’s not as hard of a cut as people want to make it. I’m an old friend of John’s and I don’t see him in black and white. I see him as a person like anyone else. He was a person who was very protective of us at a time when we needed it. So my feelings are a little bit more complicated.”

Bird also admits his perspective may also be colored by his professional relationship with him, as Lasseter was instrumental in making The Incredibles what it was.

“John kind of flung his body between us and the executives and said I think these guys are onto something and let’s give them a little more time to develop it. By the time we finished our story reels, that guy was gone and the reels spoke for themselves. He stuck his neck out in a way that few in Hollywood are willing to.”

Indeed, we live in a time where there is very little room for gray areas. Personally, I couldn’t even begin to comment on situations like Lasseter, as we know few to no specific instances. If nothing else, hopefully, he has learned from his behavior and can grow with that knowledge over at Skydance.

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SOURCES: The Daily Beast