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During the build to Marvel’s Doctor Strange, we’ve heard Kevin Feige mention that the film is going to be “out there” as it looks to explore new ground for the studio’s Cinematic Universe. With elements that are magical and supernatural, Doctor Strange is poised to be a very different kind of film from what we’ve come to expect from Marvel. Just how different? According to the film’s cinematographer Ben Davis, it’s going to be as abstract as Disney’s Fantastia was when it came out in 1940.

Most of the work within it is about other dimensions,” Davis told the audience at the British Academy of Film and Television Arts on Tuesday. After describing the film as having “a very psychedelic grounding,” Davis then said, “I described it, I think, when I was talking to Marvel as Marvel’s Fantasia, in a way, because it’s so sort of out there and different to everything else that they’ve done.

Davis would know just how different the film is going to look, as he’s no stranger to the MCU. He also worked on Avengers: Age of Ultron and Guardians of The Galaxy. Davis says the film’s visuals are “all very out there.” On the pre-visualization process, Davis says it was “very hard. You look at it and you see the imagery that they’ve created for it and you think, ‘well, how the hell do we shoot that!?’ because it’s all sort of Escher stuff.” With that last reference, Davis is talking about artist M.C. Escher, who was known for his illustrations of visual paradoxes and impossibly abstract imagery.

Doctor Strange is set to star Benedict Cumberbatch, and will bring its trippy brand of storytelling to the Marvel Cinematic Universe on November 4, 2016.