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– by Joseph Jammer Medina

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In this year-ending edition of Los Fanboys, Jammer and David discuss the recent announcement that Disney will be acquiring most of 21st Century Fox.

The duo then descends into the pit of hell, discussing the backlash Star Wars: The Last Jedi is receiving from hardcore fans. They then go on to fully discuss the film in spoiler-filled detail, with David giving the reasons why he didn’t care for the film — a side of the conversation that hasn’t been discussed on the podcast, thanks to Jammer’s own love of it.

Where do you fall in this debate? Let us know your thoughts down below!

SHOW GUIDE:

00:00:00 – Intro and box office
00:08:15 – Disney-Fox Deal — What does this mean?
00:35:50 – Star Wars: The Last Jedi backlash
00:45:25 – Star Wars: The Last Jedi – The Great Debate

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  • Israel

    The Last Jedi had a much bigger Sunday to Monday BO drop than The Force
    Awakens (58% vs 33%). “Only Star Wars nerds hated Last Jedi” my arse.

  • Setitie

    Yes, yes it does

    • Kindofabigdeal

      Maxi Big the Last Jedi. Well that smell stinkawith.

  • Weresmurf

    I don’t know if it stinks. I just know it isn’t as good as I’m told I have to think it does. Apparently I have to believe it’s an all encompassing masterpiece. Apparently I have to believe it’s the deepest Star Wars ever, (surprise, it really isn’t). I think ‘it’s ok’ fits more with what it is. I don’t think it’s a disaster, I think it’s a movie with some stupid moments, some brilliant moments, some dumb as fucking hell moments that betray its better moments and all up, that leaves it as merely ‘ok’.

    • Kindofabigdeal

      I’m of the same mind set as you Weresmurf.

    • Ghost2020

      Totally agree. The cool/awesome stuff is A+, the dumb stuff is F-, and it balances nicely out at a C+ or a B- (at best).

      I get that it’s Star Wars and not Shakespeare, but not having an actual plan from day one for each movie seems a bit lame. So now we’re doing round robin storytelling? Huh?

      • Zanetrain

        Is that how it works? Worse than lame, its insane not to have the 3 movies planned out ahead.

    • Moby85

      Totally agree, the definition of a B- film.

  • Yerko Vidal Cvitanic

    The only debate is – why did they kill of Rose syster Paige, they should have kill off Rose and leave the HOT syster alive.
    I know we all can agree on that.
    Hollywood, killing all the hot women and leaving the ugly alive.
    Otherwise i am gonna see the movie again this Saturday, on IMAX.
    Get me some Paige action.

    • Kindofabigdeal

      She reminded me of an Asian Melissa McCarthy. About as entertaining too.

      • Yerko Vidal Cvitanic

        OH! You really have talent to know how to stick to it hahahahahahahahaha – Melissa McCarthy hahahahahahahahahahaaa

    • Ben

      Agreed.

  • Behemothrex

    I have to be honest while in the theater I enjoyed it but the more I think about it, the worse it gets. Besides the fact it aped many scenes and plot points from Empire/Jedi some things are just incomprehensible.

    1) Destroys the Hero’s Sacrifice Mythos
    2) Fails to answer any of the questions set up in Force Awakens.
    3) Luke’s Death is pointless, if he was going to die, die in person sparking the new rebellion.
    4) Snoke! Everything!
    5) Why was Finn injured in the Force Awakens, see number 2.
    6) Whole scenes or plots that do not progress the story and leave you exactly at the point you started.
    7) Not one lightsaber touches another in an entire Star Wars movie!
    8) People dying like idiots for no reason, medical frigate pilot, dumb ass SJW Admiral chick, its space fantasy, they don’t have wifi or autopilot?

    And I know Star Wars has never been big on Science, but seriously, a space chase, bombers? There is no friction in space, over time the smallest engine could catch the largest if left on. Bombers!? I could go on and one but I won’t.

    Maybe I am getting too old for this.

    • Moby85

      In addition to no lightsaber fighting there’s no gun fighting with stormtroopers.

  • Games

    Movie rocked!!! Enough said here!

  • WTFITBS

    I’d give the film a solid A rating. The whole Canto Bight subplot wasn’t too distracting and probably only added an extra 10-12 mins to the running time. Also, for film titled The Last Jedi it’s obvious something is going to happen to a certain character so I’m confused why anyone was disappointed when it did.

  • Moby85

    It didn’t stink but it’s below average for me. It rates 4th worst, with the films below it being episodes I-II, and Rogue One. I felt the character choices were good for the most part, in some cases excellent but I didn’t like the callbacks to Empire Strikes Back – even when they were played with or mocked. The Canto Bight subplot was dumb as well.

    I will buy it, it’s enjoyable to me like all the Star Wars films are, but it is not beloved or a classic to me.

  • HaroldNMaudeDib

    It’s not just hardcore fans. It’s not even the choices that were made with Luke. It’s a bad movie. It’s constructed poorly, is too long, has about a dozen plot holes, wooden and weird jokes. Even the actors seemed to have taken a step back somehow.

  • HaroldNMaudeDib

    FIRE HER…

    Katheleen Kennedy has so far…

    Hired then fired the director of Rogue One, then ordered massive reshoots.

    Hired then fired the director of the Boba Fett movie, sending that movie into carbon freeze. Heh.

    Hired then fired the directors of Han Solo, then ordered massive reshoots.

    Hired then fired the director of Episode 9, before bringing JJ Abrams back.

    She also has overseen the story structure and development of the new trilogy which seems to be make it up as you go along and when in doubt copy something from the old stories.

    And she announced and gave Rian Johnson and entire new trilogy before Last Jedi even came out and now faces fan backlash over this film.

    • Ghost2020

      Wow, when you put it like that, it makes DC/WB sound absolutely sane. 😛

  • Cuban9222

    I enjoyed it better than Awakens and Rogue 1 despite it’s few fuck-ups which were: Leia’s ridiculous Space Poppins, Snoke’s rapid death, Rose ruining Finn’s sacrificial hero moment.

    Holdo/Poe conflict was stupid but forgivable because it lead to cinema’s greatest ship to ship wreck scene OF ALL TIME!!

    Canto Binto scenes were unnecessary but still enjoyable to me because they showed a new world in this Star Wars canon.

    In TLJ, involving the Praetorian guards, was the 3rd greatest lightsaber action sequence in Star Wars! 2nd best is Obi vs. Ani in eps 3. The G.O.A.T. is Qui Gon and Obi vs. Darth Maul and it won’t be topped ever!

    Luke’s situation didn’t bother me. A 25 year old isn’t going to be same person when s/he’s 55. He was disenchanted with the the Jedi ways, because they always ended in failure. He took the red pill and never looked back. He was soo weak after disconnecting himself from the Force for a long time. If you don’t use(train) it, you lose it. Kylo probably would have kicked his ass if Luke physically showed up, IF he didn’t get blown up first by those AT-ATs….

    • Ben

      Luke was so weak with the force? He managed to achieve such a high mastery of it that he was able to do something no Jedi or Sith had ever been able to do by transposing himself. Luke’s situation bothered not only fans, but Mark Hamill as well.

  • Doug

    Cry babies will cry.

  • Ben

    I throughly disliked the Rose character and the whole Canto side story that was filler and yielded nothing meaningful to the story whatsoever.

Joseph Jammer Medina is an author, podcaster, and editor-in-chief of LRM. A graduate of Chapman University's Dodge College of Film and Television, Jammer's always had a craving for stories. From movies, television, and web content to books, anime, and manga, he's always been something of a story junkie.