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– by Joseph Jammer Medina

Disclaimer: This post contains spoilers for Star Wars: The Last Jedi.

Ask any Star Wars: The Last Jedi hater, and they can come up with a laundry list of problems they had with the movie. Among those many problems, you can list the porgs, Canto Bight, everything to do with Snoke, and Luke’s Force abilities.

If you’ll recall, in the climax of the film, we saw him taking on Kylo Ren on the planet of Crait, only for it to be revealed that Luke wasn’t there at all. It turns out that he’d been on Ach-To the entire time, projecting his likeness onto the planet. Many fans took umbrage with this, calling it absolute BS, and in response to this hate, Johnson posted these series of tweets.

In the tweets, we see Johnson walking up to a bookshelf, pulling out the 2010 book The Jedi Path, flipping to the “Advanced Force Techniques” section, and reviewing a familiar-sounding ability of the Force.

Of course, in the time since this publication, this book has been rendered obsolete by Disney, but this is another instance of current canon (in this case, Star Wars: The Last Jedi) pulling bits and pieces from former canon.

Now, the real question is whether or not this holds any water for Jedi projecting themselves planets away. It’s there that fans will now take joy in poking this series of tweets apart.

What did you think of those Force projection scenes? Let us know in the comments down below!

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SOURCE: Rian Johnson

  • FeixPunk

    Luke did a fight with a sith in a spiritual form against Abeloth in the Legacy of the Force books YEARS ago. He actually could cause damage in that state to other things and beings in that realm. Jacen used “flow walking” to visit the past and even managed to send messages through it. TLJ had a lot of EU feel to it. Take out poe, give his part to finn, and delete Canton Bight and this good from a good movie to a great one. Finn is wasted since they decided to keep Poe alive.

  • Rad4Cap

    I had said that Rian was TROLLING everyone with TLJ. Now he’s taken to literal trolling.

  • elhonez

    Canto Bight was as terrible and anachronistic as the diner scene in AOTC. We didn’t need Monaco, black tuxedos, slot machines and the literal effin Monopoly guy in Star Wars as part of some ham-fisted stab at making this a “message movie.”

    If you’re making a space fantasy, and your audience becomes uncomfortable with reminders of the present day, thereby taking your audience out of the fantasy of the film, you have failed as a filmmaker. Or “filmmakers” as this series is now clearly written by committee and vetted with multiple stakeholders.

    Re: The Jedi Path, I’m sure that’s a real “page turner.” (see what I did there?) Thanks for nothing RJ.

    • Kratos

      your entire 2nd paragraph is LIT‼️

    • Rad4Cap

      While I agree with the characterization of Canto Bight as “anachronistic” and thus a major problem from a design perspective (and if I recall, that is AFTER it was fixed from looking too contemporary!), I have to disagree that it was a “ham-fisted stab” at being a “message movie”.

      In fact, it was probably the only original content that Rian contributed to SW.

      So far in SW we have been show ‘the Dark’ and ‘the Light’. And, as re-emphasized by this film, the supposedly ultimate distinction between them is ‘hate’ and ‘love’. Rose states this distinction at the end of the film. She declares that we “win…not by fighting what we hate, but saving what we love.” And Rose practiced that theme explicitly at the end of the Casino sequence. When it looks like they’re trapped, and thus their mission is about to fail, Finn says: It was worth it, though, to tear up that town; to make ’em hurt.”Rose rebukes him. She steps up to the racing animal in front of them and frees it from its chains. She steps back to Finn and replies “Now
      it was worth it.”

      The film’s theme is that being a hero isn’t about acting out of hatred, but out of love. It isn’t about destroying Casinos or “miniaturized Death Stars” (lol). It’s about saving the things we love.

      This is the fairly standardized binary equation which has been established in the SW universe. Love vs Hate. But Rian adds something new to this equation. As Rose identifies (and we are shown) the Casino people are “the worst”. The Lando-imitation character DJ elaborates on this identification. They are the worst because they act out of no emotion whatsoever – neither love nor hate. That’s why they sell to both sides. They aren’t trying to ‘hurt’ OR ‘save’ anything.

      This is the new idea that Rian introduces – and which DJ tries to get Finn and Rose to embrace. He is trying to teach them that they should just give up their emotional attachments – in order to “be free”. If you notice, DJ’s character exhibits no excitement or energy, regardless of the situation. Be he in jail, stealing riches, or released from a death sentence by the First Order, his emotions remain the same: flat – essentially dead. That that is what DJ is – he is essentially dead inside. He – like the rest of the Casino City inhabitants – are essentially like zombies, meandering through life with neither love nor hate.

      Note that this is not presented as some sort of ‘grey’ philosophy – ie some MIX of darkness and light – some “balance” between love and hate etc. From the theme’s perspective, they are a NULL state.

      They are nothing. But they are destroying everything.

      That is not a “message movie” bromide. It is not an attack on the 1% or a PETA ad etc, as some have characterized it. It really is an addition to the film’s philosophic underpinnings.

      Of course, as you note, that doesn’t mean that it was a well-executed addition. But hardly ANYTHING of TLJ was done well. It was just a BAD film due (mostly) to bad writing.

    • Games

      Literally every syfi movie has present day issues in them. It is what makes them relateable and important during their time period. The moral of this story is that failing is a great teaching tool. Learning from your mistakes leads to becoming a better person. Succeeding all the time does not teach all lessons. At times you need to fail to understand the right way to do things.

      • agooseontheloose

        And THIS is exactly what’s missing in Rey.

  • Kratos

    rian angered fans with an obscure book reference….ahahahaha….he angered fans by makin a fucked up ass movie.

  • DubCheezy

    The problems with The Last Jedi have nothing to do with cannon or character themes; they have to do with poor logic, plot holes, and lazy writing. Like the entire surviving resistance can fit snugly on the Millennium Falcon, or Mary Poppins Leia floating into a ship with no vacuum to pull Poe right out into space, or “Bombs” that can drop with no gravity. So many things that could have been solved by adding a line of dialog or a CGI effect. Just a terrible, lazily written film.

    • oh_riginal

      I hear a lot of your points, but just want to say that when the bombs fall, it’s because of the artificial gravity in the ship. By the time they fall through the “shield” that keeps breathable air inside, it already has momentum to keep going once it hits space.

      Other than that, yeah, the movie has some issues. I still enjoyed it though.

      • newscynic

        right

    • Games

      These all have reasonable explanations. If you just watch the movie, that has people that can control minds, make objects fly, and aliens that live to 800 years old, without nitpicking every scene you might enjoy it more.

      “the entire surviving resistance can fit snugly on the Millennium Falcon”

      The rest were killed on the flight to the planet. The Falcon is a huge ship, easily enough to carry the couple dozen still left.

      “or Mary Poppins Leia floating into a ship with no vacuum to pull Poe right out into space”

      There was two doors and the ones closed being her before the door opened. Sealing the vacuum need so Poe would not fly out.

      • DubCheezy

        I never saw 2 doors or anything resembling an airlock when Leia floated back to the ship.

      • Dedan Douglas

        You know what guy you’re a jerk i see you one of those internet geeks who hide behind the computer and attack people in there responses all day long!!!..Get a life buddy not everyone takes the internet so serious like you don’t be a sht starter buddy!!!.. I meant to tell you about yourself when you attacked me when i didn’t even say a word too you and second mind your business i don’t bother nobody and i tend too keep peace in my life don’t f with me sir!!!..

    • darkwingschmuck

      Everyone could fit because everyone else was dead. Leia used some latent force ability for self preservation, the vacuum of space logic is bull$hit just watch empire strikes back. They walk outside the ship on what they think is an asteroid with just a flimsy oxygen mask. The bombs im guessing use the carrier ships gravity to fall that why they needed to be so close. George Lucas said in star wars, hes not concerned how something works, just that it does work. Use your own mind. Not everything needs to be spelled out in front of you….or does it?

      • DubCheezy

        If I have to use my imagination to fill in the gaps then the writers obviously didn’t do their job very well. I don’t need everything spelled out for me, I just need it to make some sort of logical sense. Is that too much to ask for from a Star Wars film nowadays?

      • Unc Sam

        “hey walk outside the ship on what they think is an asteroid with just a flimsy oxygen mask”

        Clearly that asteroid had some kind of internal atmosphere. Improbable yes but the only explanation plus backed up by the Mynocks flying about the place.

  • Moby85

    Luke’s force projection didn’t bother me as much as Kylo’s and Rey’s. Especially when water teleported. Whew…

  • Uber Critic

    Why didn’t he simply project the false illusion of the First Order Force’s seeing each other as New Republic forces, so that they would attack each other, in place of attacking the New Republic Troops? Worse, forget about the Force projection altogether, why not just have Luke go to the planet physically and fight the enemy, either by way of the Falcon or via his X-Wing? This entire script was terrible.

    • Lenin1959

      I did not want to see Luke engaged in any battle because what he learned from Return of the Jedi is that confrontation and war are NOT the way to win. He won by throwing his weapon away and his love to his father. What happens when a master Jedi tries to kill a Sith lord? RE: Mace Windu and his gang vs. Sidious and Yoda vs. Sidious. Jedi are peacekeepers, not warriors. This is why Sidious lured them into a war and by this destroyed their very basic belief and purpose – it was the whole point of Sidious’ politics in the prequel trilogy! So making Luke fight was terrible, no matter wether being physically there or via force projection. Then again – this was not Luke at all, is must have been a Disney alternative SW universe Luke.
      But of course, pacifism is no longer needed in a world based on competition and fights, so they just had to make him fight a whole army. Which proves that the new Disney overlords don’t get or don’t like the message of the original trilogy.

      • Uber Critic

        Again, why didn’t Luke fool the enemy with an elaborate illusion, making them think that their own forces were New Republic forces? If he had done that, the First Order would have destroyed their own armies.

      • HaroldNMaudeDib

        member bespin?

        • Lenin1959

          Sorry, what?

    • Games

      Again, you didn’t like it because it wasn’t what you expected. The script was not bad, it was just not what you wanted to see. Script was great in my mind but that is my opinion because I loved the movie. I didn’t go in wanting something already. I went in wanting a good story and that is what I got. You want fan service and you didn’t get what you wanted you think the script sucks. That shows your cards and your hand is weak.

      • Uber Critic

        You didn’t answer my question. I am looking at plot holes. The most effective strategy for Luke, would be to use his ability of Force illusions, to make it appear that First Order Forces, were New Republic forces, so that the First Order would attack their own armies. You don’t introduce abilities like this, on such a scale, without thinking how they can be used. When you fail to employ the most obvious use, then you, as a writer, are out of your element.

      • HaroldNMaudeDib

        you just loved that canto bright kiddie animal stuff didn’t you!

  • Ganieda77

    I’m sincerely curious, though — if TKJ is such a “bad film,” why did what looks like more than 90% of professional film critics love it? That would seem to me not to be a “bad film” (as judged by people educated in film theory and who have seen and reviewed many more movies than we have..). It would seem instead to be a movie that didn’t fan-service you enough — i.e. it didnt give you what YOU expected. You wanted more heroics in a typical vein from your expected heroes. (And frankly a LOT of the complaining I’ve seen has been from men bitching about the women in leading roles in TLJ, so there’s more than a little misogyny going on, too. I predict there’ll be some such stupidity on the responses to this post.) So which is it? It’s not an outright “bad movie” if the vast majority of critics like it (and don’t pipe up with “critics don’t know anything” — they almost certainly know more about movies than you, and can convey their opinions convincingly). It’s only a “bad movie” because you’ve decided you don’t like it. But obviously the vast majority of moviegoers DO like it (pace China) in the one way it counts: ticket sales.

    • Kratos

      “they almost certainly know more about movies than you, and can convey their opinions convincingly” wow. ELITIST much? i guess us dumbass rubes out here in flyover country don’t know shit when it comes to cultured cinema.

      • Games

        Nailed it! Thanks for playing.

    • Brafdorf

      The answer is easy, people can’t handle TLJ because it breaks tradition and does something different

      Force Awakens is better received because it’s incredibly safe and is nothing but a fan service remake. Which is all people want. To just relive the same movies.

    • Rad4Cap

      “It’s not an outright “bad movie” if the vast majority of critics like it”

      This is a false statement. And it is a blatant “Appeal to Authority”. The number of people who “like” a thing doesn’t identify whether it is good OR bad.

      “I’m sincerely curious, though — if TLJ is such a “bad film,” why did what looks like more than 90% of professional film critics love it?”

      Because the predominant philosophy of Intellectuals today is post-modernism. And TLJ is a decidedly post-modernist film – in direct opposition to its origins. This opposition explains not only the behavior of the film’s defenders, but the film itself and all its myriad problems as well.

      I’ve noted elsewhere that even Kevin Smith (who loved the movie) has repeatedly stated that TLJ is filled with FU moments. TLJ is an attack. And it’s defenders recognize that fact. THAT is what is being praised. They declare it is a “daring” film and they “want to see more movies take risks like it in the future”. THAT is what the critics want to see “more” of. That is what they are cheering.

      They want MORE such attacks.

      The “risk” here – the change that others want to see more of – is the post-modernist deconstruction and repudiation of SW – philosophically and artistically. It is defacement as a means of devaluing and destroying prior philosophic themes (in form and content) in favor of new, opposing themes. It is “cultural realignment” by means of taking art which people love and distorting it to serve a new paradigm – a different “culture” – reflecting a different philosophy entirely.

      The “risk” others want ‘rewarded’ – ‘encouraged’ – here is the ‘transfiguring’ of works of art into tools of outright philosophic propaganda and counter-“programming”. It is akin to what the Christian Church did to “appropriate” and transform the art and customs of pagan cultures (especially their winter traditions) into symbols of Christianity instead.

      In this respect, looking upon TLJ, one is reminded of the Joker in Tim Burton’s original “Batman”:

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c92942c81710ba8309ee287ee2285a38e8e963b28cdbf7f5c086adc422ac4cdb.jpg

      THAT is what is being praised here. THAT is what some want to see “more” of.

      And, note, none of this is a reference to ‘diversity’ etc. That’s just political noise from BOTH directions. What is being referenced here – what is being attacked – is far more fundamental. It is a rejection of what Star Wars represented. Star Was was a popular resurgence of everything “post-modernism” stands against. It was a ‘reversion’ back to traditional heroics, to good and evil rather than just shades of grey, etc – all of which heavily influenced the following decades of pop culture and art. That is what is being attacked. The wikipedia description of post-modernism and what it is attacking is a sufficient identification of the battlefront here.

      “While encompassing a broad range of ideas, postmodernism is typically defined by an attitude of skepticism, irony, or rejection toward grand narratives, ideologies, and various tenets of universalism, including objective notions of reason, human nature, social progress, moral universalism, absolute truth, and objective reality. Instead, postmodern thinkers may assert that claims to knowledge and truth are products of social, historical or political discourses or interpretations, and are therefore contextual or socially constructed. Accordingly, postmodern thought is broadly characterized by tendencies to epistemological and moral relativism, pluralism, irreverence, and self-referentiality.”

      That is the nature and the object of the attack here (and why there is a unified front among the critics). That is what is being praised – and WHY it is being praised.

      And that is WHY there is a frantic, desperate desire for success. This is not merely hope for the success of a movie. It is pining for the affirmation of their entire worldview and its supposed ascendancy. THATis the source of the militant “praise” for TLJ. THAT is why every rejection of TLJ is taken as a personal affront to them. For that is precisely what it is to them

    • Unc Sam

      ” if TLJ is such a “bad film,” why did what looks like more than 90% of professional film critics love it”

      Mass hysteria.

      It’s a bad movie because of the chronic pacing issues, the number of mcguffins upon which the plot clings to, the underdevelopment of key cast members and too many other reasons I’d be happy to list another time.

  • Food4Thought

    He had no business making that movie

  • Kingsley Baconhausen

    The people you’re talking about; the complaining, bitchy, entitled nerds that seemingly have problems with everything…those aren’t fans and filmmakers don’t owe people like that anything. Most of them have never created a single thing in their lives, the only way they can momentarily forget how pathetic they are is by criticizing the creations of others.

    Can you imagine how badly A New Hope would be completely trashed by the current generation of spoiled, dissatisfied nerds?

    • Games

      Thing is they say the movie script was terrible or their was all these plot holes when in reality the story was complete and the script was well written. It was just not what they wanted so they make excuses. People like that will never like the movies that come out and it is because they want to see what they want. They can not take on new things. It ruins their lives. Messes the day all to hell.

    • Unc Sam

      “Can you imagine how badly A New Hope would be completely trashed”

      Along with the rest of the audience I’d be wondering why they didn’t just lightspeed ram the Death Star. Shame Episode 4 doesn’t live up to TLJ’s “great writing”.

      • Kingsley Baconhausen

        It does live up to it, thats the point I was making. Neither are masterpieces, they’re just Star Wars movies. They’re fun, entertaining, action packed films that don’t worry so much about plot and story as much as world building and being fantastic (not “great” fantastic, but “weird and original” fantastic).

        • Unc Sam

          TLJ and ANH on narrative equality?

          Hmmm not even close.

          While Ep 4 largely hangs together in its intenal logic, it also had the job of broadly setting the parameters of the series and for the most part, parameters that the other movies stick to. Not TLJ though. RJ had to invent a load of new mcguffins to underpin the script he wrote, some of which undercut the logic of prior movies.

          That’s just fine if you’re producing a standalone movie but when you’ve taken on an entry in a series it’s incompetence.

          • Kingsley Baconhausen

            What logic are you talking about? The logic of a made up psychic superpower? The logic of crazy futuristic technology that lets people travel at light speed and use laser weapons but doesn’t have a nuclear-level weapon capable of destroying a space station? That logic?

            We all look at A New Hope through rose colored glasses, but if you look at it objectively its got the same faults most sci-fi movies have. Suspension of disbelief is necessary to enjoy movies like this, otherwise you just go crazy pointing out plot holes and faults. It seems like folks would rather be armchair critics than fans nowadays.

          • Unc Sam

            Episode 4 holds up pretty well. Suspension of disbelief gets you so far and in Episode 4 we’re introduced to a few genre/series concepts including:

            The Force & all its offshoots

            WW2 space combat rules

            Hyperspace

            No doubt a few others.

            The point being that that’s the series framework right there. Empire, Jedi stuck to it. Prequel trilogy added midicholrians amongst other things but largely held firm to the broadstrokes of Ep 4.
            Then we’ve got Episode 8. This isn’t a commentary of the structural or character issues of the film which it had arguably more of than any other in the series, but in order to keep Episode 8 trundling along we’re introduced to lightspeed ramming, capital ships running on 24 hrs of space fuel, weird rules about fighters running out of cover (yeah Death Star attack!), Jedi holograms, force conference calling, cloaking devices, lightspeed tracking, absurd rules relating to said lightspeed tracking & others.

            Suspension of disbelief covers a couple of things per movie. When it starts trashing the conventions of the series and when your screenplay relies on introducing a load of new ones we’re in the territory of lazy writing.

  • HaroldNMaudeDib

    Totally unrelated but since I’ve been picking apart these new films….

    How did Boba Fett track the Falcon to Bespin through hyperspace?

    • Kingsley Baconhausen

      INCOMING NERD INFO ATTACK!

      The Falcon’s hyperdrive was busted, remember? Thats why Han went to Bespin, because he hoped his old buddy Lando would help him fix the Falcon. They flew there in normal space and Boba Fett followed. The real question is, with sensors that can detect…pretty much anything the writers want…life signs, hyperdrive trails, enemy ship shields, etc…How did Han not know he was being kinda closely followed?

      • HaroldNMaudeDib

        Remembered this after I posted! Thanks. I guess Boba Fett is damn good. Maybe he knew Han and knew he was going to head to Bespin. Member Bespin?

      • HaroldNMaudeDib

        One more question… How did Vader and company track Leia on her ship when she jumps to hyperspace at the end of Rogue One to finding her at the start of A New Hope?

        • Kingsley Baconhausen

          Like I said, hyperdrive trails, whatever those are.

  • Kindofabigdeal

    I liked Rian Johnsons work. I liked parts of The Last Jedi. But he doing way too much. Half of his intended audience think he shit the bed. Get over it. You had your chance. Nothing you say or Tweet will change that. Move on.

Joseph Jammer Medina is an author, podcaster, and editor-in-chief of LRM. A graduate of Chapman University's Dodge College of Film and Television, Jammer's always had a craving for stories. From movies, television, and web content to books, anime, and manga, he's always been something of a story junkie.