– by Joseph Jammer Medina

The X-Men franchise has certainly had its ups and downs. For every two good movies, they tend to have at least one bad one, and in this generation of films, X-Men: Apocalypse was that bad one.

But what was the reason behind it being the bad one. It had the original cast, along with the same talented core creative team as its stellar predecessor, X-Men: Days of Future Past. So why did this one go bad? Well, speaking to EW, director Simon Kinberg pretty much said they’d lost sight of what audiences really enjoyed about these movies.

Here are his actual words:

“I think we took our eye off what has always been the bedrock of the franchise which is these characters. It became about global destruction and visual effects over emotion and character.”

Producer Hutch Parker also had some choice words to add:

“It’s always dangerous if your script is evolving while you’re shooting. Certainly, in hindsight, we all feel like the genre has been evolving aesthetically and tonally and that the film didn’t. There’s a lot that I think is very good in the film but, as a whole, it was struggling to find ways to coalesce, narratively emotionally and in terms of plot. Aesthetically, it felt sort of dated relative to an evolution you were seeing play out everywhere else. We learned a lot from that.”

On the bright side, it does sound like they very much understand the importance of character in this franchise. There has been growing concern with X-Men: Dark Phoenix that we wouldn’t care enough about the characters for the events in it to have any impact.

With the filmmakers now understanding the big shortcomings of that film, let’s hope that they’re able to make a film with real heart that makes Jean Grey’s Phoenix powers all the more heartbreaking.

“One of the things I went into this film wanting to do is obviously focus on the characters and give them real emotions to play and come up with a theme that would make it feel relevant and necessary in today’s world,” Kinberg said.

The result seems to be a more grounded one than Apocalypse.

What do you think of Kinberg and Hutcher’s comments? Do you think they’ve nailed it? Let us know your thoughts down below!

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  • Smerdyakov

    It was a crappy film for Angel and Psylocke fans.

    • Kindofabigdeal

      Yeah, it’s like they picked her up from comic con.

      • Smerdyakov

        Totally wrong that Mystique could mimic her powers too.

  • Wild Dreams

    For ruining a character like apocalypse Fox deserves very much to be devoured by Disney….I hope we get to see this character again down the road done justice, that Ivan ooze looking knock off was NOT apocalypse.


    Do the people at FOX actually read and understand the X-Men comics? If so, it was never evident in any of the films.

    At the center of the main X-Men storyline there were two main storyarcs:The Summers family and Professor X vs. Magneto. Mostly everything spawns off of that. The films never even scratch the surface of the first and horribly executed the later.

    Also, continuity got thrown out of the f#%king window so nobody can even follow whats going on from one film to the next. So if you were new to watching the X-Men films none of it would make sense up to this point, and if Apocalypse was this all powerful God-like mutant why hasn’t his presence been foreshadowed by events leading up to this point?

    Also, X3 was the Dark Phoenix saga, so why are getting another film that will be loosely based on a classic storyarc that involves specific characters for certain reasons that won’t follow that story?

    • Aline

      I once saw a coment saying that the scripts from the X-Men films are based on the covers and not on the content of the book. There is no fidelity in these films.

      • Victor Roa

        you nailed it, late into the 90s Marvel would proposition their properties at licensing shows by just making their covers into blown out posters for Producers could see. Hence why Ultimates is such a huge influence on Avengers.

    • Victor Roa

      would it surprise you that the original XMen script went through around 50 rewrites?

      • Kindofabigdeal

        I would be surprised that they even had a script.

        • Victor Roa

          Like at one point Andrew Kevin Walker’s name was on the script, David Koep (whom probably is too expensive even by 1999) of course Joss Weadon dabbled on it, and then it ends with the voice of Solid Snake after the success of the video game happened.

  • Victor Roa

    and this happens as Bryan Singer is out and Disney buys out Fox…. classy.
    the issue is, XMen franchise has made 2 billion bucks, and the key goal is to make this episodic but if each film is like like struggling without any prune juice….. then there needs to be some structure in this production.
    There are about 8 projects running on XMen brand…… so yeah, get your shit in order.

    • Yerko Vidal Cvitanic

      Yeah, that´s right!

      • Victor Roa

        it was a production of bringing young actors, promising each of them they would get their own individual film if they would dress up like Gambit….. wow, that’s so creepy, especially now.

  • Rez

    Marvel now has alot to work with and it could get very interesting…..we can maybe see some s**t that was never possible happen. The next phase can be Fantastic…….get it!

    • Zachary Gadzinski

      Yeah, I’m sure if the actors play their MCU counterparts, except their adult versions they could benefit from a good script. Sure some of the other movies could get cancelled in favor of other Marvel X-Men films and the X-23 spinoff will probably be repurposed as a Wolverine film taking place in the MCU rather than a Logan spinoff like Manigold originally planned.

      I’m pretty sure that Manigold would pitch his idea for that he had for his Logan spinoff as a Wolverine film featuring Dafne Keen’s Laura as Wolverine. Sure the film won’t pick up after Logan, but seeing Laura as the MCU Wolverine would be cool though.

      • Rez

        Fantastic…..I was just saying do something like never before….Fantastic 4

  • Katie

    When they talk about characters are they only referring to Wolverine, Mystique, Magneto and Xavier? Because although I do like them it does feel like the movies have started to revolve around them and only them aside from a few different character moments.

    • Games

      Why Mystique is a main character and not a side bad guy I have never understood. She is not that deep. She to me was a good bad guy that was Nightcrawler’s mom. To make her a main character is silly. I get they wanted to keep Jennifer Lawrence but she is just not that great in my opinion (the character not the actress).

  • mrneddles

    Ridiculous, not scary at all big-bad. Jennifer Lawrence fatigue. Mystique as a good guy. Mutants versus Humankind storyline done for the umpteenth time. Magneto reduced to a pawn. I can probably find more reasons it sucked but that would mean rewatching it.


    It’s always dangerous if your script is evolving while you’re shooting”

    Is that code for writing on the fly? Or reshoots?

    • Weresmurf

      Yes and yes. Both.

  • Brock Richards

    The mistake in my opinion was not making one more great film with the original “X-Men” cast. At the end of “Future Past” all the horrendous mistakes from ‘Last Stand” had been fixed and all our beloved original “X-Men” and the actors who played them were back. There should have been one more film with all of them, what should have been instead of “Last Stand” it was the perfect opportunity and it was squandered. How great to have had one more “X-Men” film with James Marsden and Famke Jansen back from the grave and reunited with the other original cast. Instead we got “Apocolypse”… yikes!!!

    • mrneddles

      That is/was a great idea.

  • Kronx

    Way too much going on in the film. It played like a montage of x-men ideas that seemed cool at the time but didn’t really connect well.

Joseph Jammer Medina is an author, podcaster, and editor-in-chief of LRM. A graduate of Chapman University's Dodge College of Film and Television, Jammer's always had a craving for stories. From movies, television, and web content to books, anime, and manga, he's always been something of a story junkie.