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– by Joseph Jammer Medina

 

Mark Hamill has always been an outspoken voice regarding Star Wars: The Last Jedi. In an early first look for the film, he famously said that he fundamentally disagreed with Rian Johnson’s take on the Luke Skywalker character. In the time since then, he’s backpedaled slightly.

However, in a newer interview posted by the YouTube account Jar Jar Abrams, Hamill seems to double down on those claims, going so far as to say that this Luke isn’t the same Luke we saw at the end of Return of the Jedi.

“I said to [director] Rian [Johnson], ‘Jedis don’t give up.’ I mean, even if he had a problem, he would maybe take a year to try and regroup. But if he made a mistake, he would try and right that wrong. So, right there we had a fundamental difference, but it’s not my story anymore. It’s somebody else’s story – and Rian needed me to be a certain way to make the ending effective.

[…]

That’s the crux of my problem. Luke would never say that. I’m sorry. Well, in this version, see I’m talking about the George Lucas Star Wars. This is the next generation of Star Wars, so I almost had to think of Luke as another character. Maybe he’s Jake Skywalker. He’s not my Luke Skywalker, but I had to do what Rian wanted me to do because it serves the story well.”

“But listen, I still haven’t accepted it completely. But it’s only a movie. I hope people like it. I hope they don’t get upset, and I came to really believe that Rian was the exact man that they need for this job.”

With the exception of that ending part, that certainly doesn’t sound too good from the man who’s played the character for four films (five if you count Star Wars: The Force Awakens).

Indeed Hamill isn’t alone. one of the biggest complaints about the character revolved around Luke Skywalker’s decidedly un-Jedi-like personality throughout the film.

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SOURCE: Jar Jar Abrams

  • CrystalClearTruth

    That’s right, the people they passed the Star Wars torch to, fundamentally don’t understand the heart of Star Wars. Milk that cash cow. Pander to the plebes. It’s only a movie, people are idiots and will accept what we give them. we should respond with our jedi mind trick: These aren’t the movies we’re looking for.

    btw, it’s worse for those of us who actually worked on the film

  • Mike

    Yoda gave up…he literally walks away mid fight cause he fell, and then goes into hiding

    • Ian Finnimore

      Doesn’t mean that Luke would – if your friend picked a fight with a wookie would you?

      .

      • Kindofabigdeal

        Depends on what weapons we had and how good of a friend.

        • Ian Finnimore

          That’s racist …. ;-p

      • Mike

        Haha definitely not, but hamill said “Jedi don’t give up” which isn’t true, even in the Lucas canon

        • Ian Finnimore

          True but it’s kinda also the Luke/Hamil good guy optimism coming through – he was the new HOPE after all.

          Love that guy.

          • Mike

            I love him too…but I am getting frustrated in general with people saying things “aren’t Star Wars” when there is plenty of precedent for it…if you don’t like something, that’s completely fair, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t fit into the universe.

  • Kronx

    I don’t know that Rian should really get all the blame here. TFA established that Luke was in hiding and that Kylo had murdered his school. Rian had to somehow explain it.

    I don’t have a better explanation. Maybe Luke could’ve been waiting for the cable guy?

    • Ian Finnimore

      In searching for Jedi artifacts Luke finds a place of immense power, knowing that there is a dark force out there somewhere he decides to stay & guard it. Only he & Artoo know of its location…

      Boom..

      • Kindofabigdeal

        They could even have Luke with a secret school of young Force users whom he’s hiding form the First Order until they are ready to fight. Rey joins in and he quickly learns that she is stronger than any of them. He then feels ready to meet his nephew and Snoke with this new apprentice. Rey falters due to lack of training and Kylo and Snoke overtake Luke in front of her. (Maul/Obi Wan homage) Then Rey flees back to the school and takes the mantle of teacher to the rest of the students.

        • Ian Finnimore

          I’d buy that for a dollar!!

        • Aaron James

          Cool, so….what’s Luke’s arc in that story? What about Rey? What’s her arc? How do they change, as characters, as a result of those events?

          • Kindofabigdeal

            Luke’s arc is that he’s been secretly holding himself back. Fear of facing his nephew, whom he loves. He knows those feelings can be used to serve the Dark side. In Rey he sees a new hope. They do a little training where Luke tried to convince her that she’s the new hope. She has trouble believing in herself. When they face the big bads Rey, unsure of herself, gets knocked down or disarmed(not literally). Luke, in a fit of rage dispatches Snoke, but not kill him. Or maybe he does. But then he tried to turn Kylo back to the Light. We can play some RotJ music to make is seem like he will, but Kylo kills his uncle. Rey escapes and has to come I terms with her new responsibility and purpose. Luke simply comes out of his rut and inspires his protege. Rey will meet the challenge. She will be blinded by trying to get revenge, only to learn in episode 9 that even a man like Kylo can be redeemed. But Kylo should sacrifice himself for the greater good after a battle with Rey about the facts of life. You know, something like that.

          • Aaron James

            Luke’s arc here seems to be: he overcomes his fear of facing his nephew and potentially falling to the Dark Side. Is that right?

            Because if it is, that actually seems far less in-character than his moment of weakness when he considered murdering Ben. He’s already faced that fear, at the end of ROTJ. His feelings were already used to serve the Dark Side…and he managed to snap out of it and resist. This would be a case of Luke fearing something he already overcame.

            Rey’s arc here is even less clear. She fails because she’s untrained, not because of some character flaw (which means she learns no lesson from failing except “train some more”)…and then she becomes a teacher? I’m not sure how “needs more training” and “becomes the teacher” connect in any way. Or how they make her grow as a character.
            Your plan for her in ep 9 is an arc. But it’s not an interesting one. “She wants revenge, then realises revenge is bad”. That seems less nuanced than what happens in the original trilogy.

          • Aaron James

            Okay, here’s how I would have written episode 8:

            In the movie, we’d find out who Snoke was. Not sure exactly where I’d go with it, except that I’d make out Snoke to be a DIRE threat – worse than the Emperor ever was. A seriously powerful badass. So powerful, in fact, that after he corrupted Ben Solo, Luke felt he had to retreat, go into hiding, and study the ancient Jedi ways before he would have a chance of facing down Snoke.

            Along comes Rey and Luke would be all “You’re familiar to me”, but wouldn’t be able to put his finger on it exactly. They train together, Rey gets better, Luke feels that together they have a chance of defeating Snoke. And the need to defeat him would have become urgent because of whatever was happening with the rest of the Resistance (not sure exactly what they’d be doing).

            Meanwhile, Kylo Ren is constantly trying to prove himself to Snoke. Snoke keeps him at a distance, never seeing him in person, only speaking to him via hologram. Finally, he does something so evil that Snoke thinks he’s 100% committed to the Dark Side – he decimates the Resistance forces somehow, which is what prompts Luke and Rey to return.

            Luke and Rey arrive just as Kylo finally gets a personal audience with Snoke. It’s clear that they’ve never met face-to-face before. And right then, Kylo tries to kill Snoke. But Luke and Rey arrive. It’s chaos. They cause Kylo to fail. Snoke kills Luke, and escapes.

            The big twist: Kylo has been trying to kill Snoke all along. He believe that Snoke is such a huge threat to the galaxy that any sacrifice is worth killing him. So he’s been willing to turn to the Dark Side, kill his own father, destroy the Resistance, just to get Snoke to trust him. Just so he can get close to Snoke and have a chance at killing him. THIS was why he was such a Vader fanboy – because Vader killed the Emperor, and he wants to use the same strategy. He was embracing the Dark Side to serve the Light, becoming the monster the galaxy needed.

            He also reveals that Rey is one of the students from the school. That was why Luke recognised her. He didn’t slaughter them, he hid them throughout the galaxy. They’re all still alive, waiting to be found and trained as Jedi.

            Now Rey and Ren have to work together in ep 9 to defeat Snoke, probably using the Light and the Dark together.

            This is the vague plot I had invented in my head before I went to see Ep. 8. It’s what I wanted the movie to be. The thing is: I like Rian Johnson’s version better. Why? Because my version doesn’t really have chatacter arcs. It’s all plot, all built around that twist. The whole movie would have been in service to that twist. And maybe people would have liked it. But Johnson delivered a movie with actual themes and character arcs, where the plot was driven by the character’s motivations and choices. And he expanded the scope of what Star Wars can be. I think that’s pretty impressive. Your mileage may vary.

  • Unc Sam

    To be fair to Rian Johnston, we ended up in this position because of the dodgy decision to reset the SW universe between 6 and 7. RJ was trying to play the hand he was dealt – although there are infinite directions he could have gone in, I wish he’d chosen a different one.

    • Kindofabigdeal

      They dealt him an King, a Queen, a Jack, a 9, and a 5. He basically threw out the King and Jack and tried to make a straight with Queen, 9, 7, 5, and deuce.

  • Ian Finnimore

    I think that this ends the Luke debate …

    This isn’t Luke, Hamill knows it & many others do too. It’s gone from a soft reboot to a cold hard one at the expense of the original heroes – if your down with that then I got two words for ya …

    #notmylukeskywalker

    • Kindofabigdeal

      Maybe Jar Jar will have Luke come out of hiding and say that it was Jake Skywalker, a clone, who died off in TLJ.

      • Ian Finnimore

        “Heesa eh clonesa, berry skiwdd” “DAT Jake Skywalker no likesa naptime”

        • Kindofabigdeal

          I was referring to Abrams, but your comment works too.

  • Kindofabigdeal

    Mark Hamill obviously doesn’t understand good storytelling.

    • Ian Finnimore

      Yup .. what would someone that awesome know ..Burn it down .. Burn it down ..

    • Monkey_Kebab

      If only there was a reaction video Mark could watch… I’ll bet that would help him understand better.

    • Jake Speed

      No he soes. He never said it wasn’t good storytelling, he said he has a different idea for the character. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

      • Kindofabigdeal

        You obviously aren’t paying attention here. I keep referring to Jammers article that says that anyone who didn’t like The Last Jedi does not understand good storytelling. So using that logic, Mark Hamill does not understand good storytelling.
        I’m being sarcastic. (whoooosh)

        • Ian Finnimore

          the comment would not go over my head .. because I would CATCH IT!

        • Jake Speed

          Got it.
          Totally missed it…my sarcasm detector is in the shop.

          My bad lol

  • To me it was like Luke followed in the footsteps of Yoda. He was a hermit and a bit crotchety like Luke was. Yoda also gave up on the idea of fixing the problem after he couldn’t kill Sidious. He ran away and hid from Vader and in a way so did Obi-Wan (had to protect Luke) so to me this is what Jedi do.

  • Jake Speed

    “I said to [director] Rian [Johnson], ‘Jedis don’t give up.’

    Last I checked Obi Wan hid on Tattoine for 20 years and Master Yoda was eating frogs in a swamp…so I’m not too sure about that one.

  • the50sguystrikesback

    Both Dooku AND Qui-Gon (eventually) became disgruntled with the Jedi so it’s not like the concept hadn’t been introduced before. We love you Mark, but get OVER it.

  • Ian Finnimore

    The site are stopping the you tube clip I found of Mark saying that the original cast signed on before the Disney sale …

    Its called Mark Hamill hates star wars the last jedi – at the 2min 23 mark he says

    “I didn’t know it would be brought by Disney – we signed on in the summer of 2012 then later on during Halloween the Disney deal was announced”

  • Aaron James

    I’m not a fan of digging into Star Wars to the degree that I’m about to. What I love most about the original trilogy is its simplicity. It’s such a pure distillation of the Hero’s Journey. But here goes:

    So, the issue many people seem to have here is, if Luke was willing to risk it all in order to save his father, why would he even briefly consider murdering his nephew?

    Luke had just learned that Vader was his father. It’s probably safe to assume that this earth-shattering revelation had a profound effect on how Luke saw himself. Just how much like his father was he? Was he also doomed to turn to the Dark Side? We can see here why he might be so motivated to save Vader. He would be, effectively, saving himself.

    So, let’s look at another time that Luke gave up. At the end of ROTJ, when Vader suggests that Leia might be turned. Luke sees a threat to someone he loves, and gives up and trying to save Vader. Instead, he attacks him, and comes very, very close to killing him. This, I think, is actually a much worse than his moment of thinking about killing Ben Solo. He actually gives into the Dark Side there at the end of ROTJ. He stops himself when he realises what he’s done, and doesn’t actually kill Vader, but you can’t deny that he did, for a minute, give in to weakness, and give up on the idea of saving his father.

    To suggest that it’s somehow out of character for Luke to later have a moment of weakness when he sees Ben Solo’s potential to be another Vader is, well, you’re not being honest about who Luke was. And this time around, Luke’s own identity is not tied up in whether or not Ben can be redeemed. A young man defines himself in relation to his father. And old man does not define himself in relation to his nephew. Luke doesn’t have the same pressing motivation. And even so, he does better than he did at the end of ROTJ. He does not give into his weakness.

    He does, however, feel enormously guilty when Ben destroys his school and murders most of his students. He understandably feels like maybe he needs to remove himself from the equation. And remove the Jedi as a whole from the galaxy.

Joseph Jammer Medina is an author, podcaster, and editor-in-chief of LRM. A graduate of Chapman University's Dodge College of Film and Television, Jammer's always had a craving for stories. From movies, television, and web content to books, anime, and manga, he's always been something of a story junkie.